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  1. Sorry...you want to make money by renting out houses / flats / rooms / houseboats...then make sure they are safe. If you want to make inroads into preventing terrorism do the courses join MI5 or the Police but you will still have safety rules to follow...believe me I know.
  2. You may well be happy to live there...I wouldn't...especially having to pay for the privilege...without certificates stating it was safe to do so prior to me living there! If you think electrical safety of your tenants is secondary to bringing in the folding stuff I've made my point....on a par with my daughters association.
  3. My thoughts on that are.......if a Landlord has done his best and can prove that he/she had done all in their power to make sure electrical systems in their houses had been checked and tested at SOME point prior to a tenant moving in then discretion should be used if problems occur........BUT if a landlord has a fire at his rented premises and it is proven that a simple inspection as per a PIR/ECIR of the electrical equipment WOULD have located the fault and then tries to cover the facts up that the property had not had any electrical inspections in 21 years then it deserves all what's coming to it. My only down to earth advice for any landlords that have electric storage heaters installed in their properties is get them and the consumer unit inspected regularly.
  4. I suppose the argument being...if I own a house or houses and I want people to pay to live in them then they ( the houses ) must be safe for them to do that. If I or my family die or are injured as a result of a fire caused by an electrical fault that could have been diagnosed and fixed for the want of spending out a little money then it would be on my conscience and no one else's. If someone is fortunate enough to be in a position to have a surplus house / flat and they want to make a living from it then to my mind it must be kept in a safe condition. My daughters housing association boasted of having 22000 houses on it's books...I wonder how many of those are ticking time bombs?
  5. Early days as yet sometime in New Year.....
  6. I totally agree....I've had one done and paid for my old man to have one done at his.
  7. Hi all.... Back in January I posted a question about criminal negligence by a Housing Association. I remember that it caused a stir with some of you. The crux of the matter being my daughters house caught fire and when the forensic guy's had finished looking and examining the debris they both concluded that the fire was started because a screw had been left loose in the storage heater consumer unit. This unit was installed in 2002 with a recommendation that it be tested again in 2007....never inspected. The house had, as we found out later, never had a thorough electrical safety inspection in 21 years. ( PIR or ECIR as it is now called) Any way the bottom line is, after many months of jumping through hoops and requesting various documents the associations insurers capitulated and paid my daughter for her losses....just as the County Court papers got to them!! This was after it was shown by our family that the association had lied about electrical inspections. Basically they tried to palm off Domestic Installation Certificates as Periodic Inspection reports. The saga got to the ears of the BBC somehow and on Monday my daughter and I wil be interviewed by Dom Littlewood with a view to get the electrical side of tenanted property in line with the Gas regs in that rented accomodation will have to be certified by law every 5 years to be sure that tenants like my daughter are not occupying a ticking time bomb. I'm sure it will raise the hackles of some but hey better to be the owner of a safe house than to have somebody's death on your mind for the sake of £140. Cheers for now. Britz.
  8. I got some heartbeats racing early in the year when I asked if a landlord who ignored the Landlord and Tenant Act 1985 as regards electrical safety was guilty of neglect? Boy did I get some of you hot under the collar. Any way....today after a long fight my daughters social landlord have put their hands up and have settled her compensation claim rather than go to court. ( I was quite looking forward to the court case actually but never mind). cheers Waspie.
  9. Well the HA has to the end of this week to say yes or no and it's then to stage 4..ombudsman and then to court. This particular HA is already in difficulties with various overseeing bodies so I don't expect it to go on much longer. We'll see. The 167 days refers to the fact that she still 'aint back in her house...no electric...not form of heating...all repairs done...workmen in house all told number of days...11.
  10. Goodwill or not I'm sure my daughter won't mind....£4845 to my mind aint' no small change...but if that is how it is who are we to argue at least she will be able to get her life back on track. The HA will a bit late with the goodwill but we'll take the gesture....167 days and counting.
  11. Don't get ya back...I was trying some humour...forget it.
  12. Melboy you've bamboozled me there... Miss B has no contents insurance...she is claiming for her losses against the HA's liability insurance. Surely if she had her own insurance and claimed and her insurance has settled that claim then her insurance company would surely have instigated a claim against the HA's company bearing in mind that they are at fault...or at least their equipment was at fault. and that equipment caused the losses! Makes sense to me...but what do I know...........don't do it COR!!
  13. As a complete outsider to your profession I can only offer this advice about this civil court. It is informal..no bowing and scraping. Be honest...have your facts infront of you. Do not embelish them. Make sure your witness is ofay with the facts as you see the case. Dont be like CORand be a smart arse....it won't do you any good. Have you submitted your evidence pack or are you not at that stage yet? It was a little while ago when I went there, but each of the parties had to supply the other with facts of their side of the dispute..is that not so? Any way best of luck.
  14. No union for me...I couldn't strike even if I wanted to before I retired. If I make a mistake I am humble enough to say sorry. I protect my offspring and I will not let them be crapped on by any money making machine that does not play fair. It may have intimidated others but not this Joe Soap. If the top Johnny of the HA says " The payment of £158 is for safety checks and not Periodic checks " what is he talking about? and it is not to do with Gas! Play by the rules and all's well.....try and squirm out of one's responsibilities and you get found out then prepare to pay the consequences. If you want to be a LL of any size, keep your tenants safe and you will not have the likes of me making things awkward for you, and being a pain in the arse and making waves. If your contract stipulates that the tenant MUST have their own insurance then so be it. Question...if Miss B had had her own insurance and got her claim for lost beds etc etc settled...and all this stuff had come out regarding faulty electrics...do you think her insurance would claim against the HA's insurance? Yep I think it would... Up the workers...keep the red flag flying....don't let the bas***ds grind you down...
  15. Correct...I didn't. But it's been most enlightening.....and what ever the link is...I'm sure it will not be anything to do with the thread.
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